Failure and creativity

Friday, April 8, 2016 Permalink

I’ve not slept well recently so trying a few new things in an attempt to doze off in some sort of relaxed state. As opposed to lying there for hours getting stressed and anxious while pondering world peace and body corporate issues.

One of the things I tried was a podcast… something I’ve never really considered before; and I decided to break my podcast cherry on Elizabeth Gilbert’s final ‘Magic Lessons’ interview (conducted in support of her recent book, Big Magic) with the wonderful Brene Brown.

The interviews (and the book) are centred around creativity but Liz and Brene talk a lot about failure and how it can prevent us from pursuing more creative lives.

failure and creativity

I loved the podcast so much I’ve listened to it twice. So far. And this is what I’ve learned about failure:

1. The thing we’re most afraid of has probably already happened
They share stories of people whose creativity has been stifled as a result of criticism or failure during their childhood and suggest that whatever we’re most fearful of… has probably already happened – and is (perversely) responsible for that fear. They give an example of a boy whose father talked about drawing being something for pansies. Despite his love of art, the boy never drew again until he was a middle aged man. As they said – no one could possibly hurt this man (by commenting on / criticising his drawing) more than his own father already had.

2. Rather than ask… ‘If you knew you could not fail, what would you do?’  Ask ‘What’s worth doing even if you fail?’
Liz talks about someone she met who felt so empowered by Liz’s life and so inspired by her teachings that she took that leap. They left a job, mortgaged the house and followed their passion. And failed. They felt they’d been let down.

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Brene talked about ‘failing’ several times before succeeding and both agreed it’s not uncommon and many of those we perceive to be successful, first failed. But sometimes, they suggest… the price of NOT trying is worse than the price of failure. Aussie-born, UK-based Clive James is quoted, saying ‘failure has a function’. It tests our resolve. It asks if we really want ‘it’ enough.

3. Practice self-forgiveness not self-discipline
And what happens if we fail? Or if we don’t succeed? We often become angry at ourselves, believing we’re lacking the self-discipline to keep going. They suggest the reason we quit, or stop is because of shame. We’re embarrassed. And the antidote (or the opposite) to shame is – of course – empathy.

She reminds us to talk to ourselves as if we were talking to someone else. Would we really tell them they sucked #bigtime and deserved to fail? Nope… we’d congratulate them on trying and tell them to brush themselves off and to get back on that bloody horse. Or bike. #whatevs

These make sense to me. As a lover of logic I ‘get’ this stuff. Indeed, I felt heartened by their dismissal of ‘failure’. Rather than seeing it as ‘the end’, perhaps it’s just the beginning.

Of course… whether this sinks into my own subconscious is another thing entirely!

Does this all make sense to you?

I’m flogging my blog With Some Grace today.

I’m making an attempt to get my blogging mojo back by posting EVERY day in April. #holdme

So far so good…

*Free images in today’s post from jaymantri.com

23 Comments
  • Kathryn
    April 8, 2016

    Yikes I hate not being able to sleep, am a chronic insomniac too. Have a night when I sleep from exhaustion then nights I struggle for ages. So have sympathy. Have been trying a few podcasts too to see if they would send me to sleep! Thanks for the synopsis -all makes sense! I like the talk encouragingly to yourself – although easier said than done!

  • Sarah @sarahdipity
    April 8, 2016

    Well as you already know from my own post, I totally agree! I’m only halfway through listening to the Magic Lessons podcasts so I look forward to listening to the final episode. So much of what Elizabeth has to say has resonated with me and somehow makes it all seems so much less complicated than we make it!

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      I must listen to the rest of the podcasts as well Sarah. I really love Brene which was a motivation for choosing this one!

  • Denyse Whelan
    April 8, 2016

    Two ladies guiding much of my journey right now…as you already know…are Brene and Liz. I am doing an on-line course with Brene based on her Gifts of Imperfection Book. It’s helpful. I am also listening to her book “I thought it was only me” and I am happy to send it to you for a lend. Good for car trips! Really really helpful too. Big Magic and permission to create without any purpose other than to enjoy is the best thing I have added to my life since I got into art in 2013. Cheers! D

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      I like the sound of both of these books Denyse and thanks for your offer for a loan but I might look at getting the ebook as I’m looking for an audiobook to listen to on my work travels!

  • OurParallelConnection
    April 8, 2016

    I go through stages with sleeping and usually when I’m not sleeping, I’m stressing. Find the core of the problem and try to solve it or alter it. Good luck with night naps.

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      I’m always a bad sleeper and take an hour or two to get to sleep, but when I’m at my worst I’ll toss and turn for 4-5hrs and see 2am pass for a couple of months on end. I only work part-time so on days I don’t work it’s not as worrying, but I’m struggling a bit to get through my working day when I’m really tired. And sadly it doesn’t help me sleep the next night as I’m dead tired from about 5-7pm and then when I go to bed I’m thinking and buzzing again!

  • Michelle Weaver (@pinkypoinker)
    April 8, 2016

    Yes it does and our forefathers wrote a nursery rhyme about it. It’s called Incy Wincy Spider. There is a lot of wisdom in nursery rhymes and fairy tales if you can decipher them 🙂

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      Ha! I’d never thought of that one Michelle. Far less navel-gazing involved. And more succinct! 🙂

  • maxtheunicorn
    April 8, 2016

    I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a podcast before! Hope you get your blogging mojo back Deb 🙂

    Di from Max The Unicorn

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      Thanks Di. I think the blogging-every-day thing is helping!

  • Char
    April 9, 2016

    I think that the people I most admire are the ones who fail over and over again and yet, keep trying. I don’t know if I’d be able to continue to dust myself off day after day and that’s probably why I admire them so much. Failure is scary and can feel humiliating. But it can also teach us things – like what didn’t work.

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      True. I wonder if we’re ‘trained’ from a young age that ‘failure is bad’ or where it comes from….

  • writeofthemiddle
    April 9, 2016

    I’ve had trouble sleeping lately too Deb but I downloaded some sleep meditations. They worked at first but now the voices are annoying me and keeping me awake. Last night I turned off the voice and just listened to the music. BUT now I’m thinking maybe I will try listening to a podcast too. In fact I am really interested in listening to the one you speak of here – Elizabeth Gilbert’s Magic Lessons. I have her ‘Big Magic’ book but have yet to read it (though I did make a start). I have already subscribed on iTunes and look forward to listening! Thanks for bringing my attention to the fact these podcasts existed. I had no idea! 🙂

    • Debbish
      April 9, 2016

      I’ve not gone to sleep to them but came across them looking for some sort of sleep meditations Min. Because I love Brene I thought I’d listen to that and see if it helped. It didn’t help me sleep but I enjoyed it anyway! 🙂

  • Jess
    April 9, 2016

    I love the idea that our biggest fears have already come true. That rings so true in my life especially since it is usually my fear/ anxiety that has been at the root of many of my failures.

    • Debbish
      April 10, 2016

      Yes, very true Jess. I’m the same.

  • Rita @ View From My Home
    April 10, 2016

    Thanks for your insight here. I had never heard of Brene Brown and now I’m excited to find out more. I actually like Elizabeth Gilbert (she takes a lot of bashing from readers who think she is “too perfect” or “too smug”- paraphrasing). I enjoyed Eat, Pray, Love– the book and movie– and I watched a long video she posted once about her connection to her wonderful old house and she made me smile.
    I think I’ll have to pick up one or more of these books. Listening won’t help me as much as reading will- just my personal style. Sometimes we all need a bit of advice from strangers, which we won’t accept from loved ones, so I’m eager to find out more here.

    • Debbish
      April 10, 2016

      I’ve not been overly fond of Liz’s books – except for Big Magic because I love her work on creativity. I remember being a bit cynical about her and then hearing her TED talk about writing (and maybe creativity) years and years ago and felt very inspired. Brene’s also done a great TED talk on empathy and writes a lot about blame etc…

  • Jo
    April 11, 2016

    I’ve just downloaded that podcast. I’ve never really listened to Brene, but adore Liz Gilbert.

    • Debbish
      April 11, 2016

      I really like Brene. Very much a ‘no-shit’ kinda person.

  • Grace
    April 12, 2016

    “What worth doing even if you failed?” I remember Elizabeth Gilbert spoke about this at the Sydney Opera House. I’m going to ponder on this one and write about it in my journal tonight.
    I hope you’re sleeping better this week x

    • Debbish
      April 13, 2016

      Ah yes, when Brene mentioned it Liz was effusive – they agreed they hate the more common ‘What would you do if you knew you couldn’t fail?’

      And no… about to leave for work on just 3hrs sleep! Gah!

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